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think he felt that he would manage to calm the right down? or was it a price he was willing to play? >> it was the price he was willing to pay. >> this was the week that changed the world. >> richard nixon said when he went to china with you, of course, in '72, the week that he was there, he said this is the week that changed the world? >> he was right. >> well, those were some of the tough decisions we wanted to analyze. do you agree with the choices these people made? what are the toughest decisions you have made? join in the conversation online. #toughdecisions on twitter or we'll highlight the most interesting ones on our website. thank you for joining us tonight. we hope your decision to watch our show was not a tough one. tonight, the one and only barbra streisand. ♪ and the way we were >> extraordinary hour.
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the legendary superstar. >> those men are fighting for your right to make any kind of picture you want. >> her incredible career. >> i only began to sing because i couldn't get a job as an actress, b you see. >> her leading men. >> the greatest love of her life. >> you always ask that to people. why is that? >> and the tragedy that changed everything. >> i think it did scar me. >> and the politics, plastic surgery and the personal side of fame. >> you see me as this star. i don't see myself like that. >> barbra streisand, the way she is, a funny girl. this is "piers morgan tonight." people ask me who i would most like to have on my show as a guest one name pops up in my mind. she's a fabulous actress with a voice i believe is the greatest that's ever been. she's a humanitarian, activist, wife, mother and a funny girl. she is, of course, barbra streisand.
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i even got the name right. >> did you say bah-bra? >> i said barbra. >> i got the last name right. i said it in a very eng rich way. >> [ english accent ] by god, you've got it. >> i have come from watching your brilliant new movie "guilt trip." it reminded me what it would be like if i went on a trip with my mother. you and seth rogen go on a bizarre trip. you are the arche type of a jewish mother. a loving, touching film. let's watch a clip. >> i'm over here! honey. >> hey, ma. >> i'm over here. >> i see you. all of new york sees you. >> oh, my god. >> good to see you. >> look at you. >> look at me. >> oh, my god.
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you're wearing a sports jacket. how did you know where to even buy a sports jacket. >> i took a class. >> oh, my god. you left the price tag on. j. crew, my fancy schmancy son. i'm going to keep it in case it goes on sale. >> it was a touching movie. it moved me to tears. it's also funny. you had a ball doing it, didn't you? >> if you like -- yeah, yeah. if you like working that much. yeah, it was fun. it actually was fun. >> do you hate all work? >> no. >> what do you like doing? >> i love making movies actually. i love recording. that's what i love. >> you don't like performing in front of people. >> that's odd. >> it is strange. >> i never know what to do during the applause. i don't know what to do. oh, okay. all right. let's go on to the next thing. it's a strange thing to be live in front of people.
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>> you consider yourself to be an actress that sings. >> mm-hmm. >> many people would think you're arguably the greatest singer that's ever been. i would argue that. >> i don't know. i only began to sing because i couldn't get a job as an actress, you see. i entered a talent contest. >> the dream was to be a star? >> i think when i was young i wanted to be a star until i became a star. then it's a lot of work, you know. it's work to be a star. i don't enjoy the stardom part. i enjoy the creative process. >> if i said to you, look, you're on a desert island. you can sing, you can direct, you can act, or you can sit there drinking out of coconuts. >> i would say direct. >> that's the true love. >> well, directing is so interesting. it just encompasses everything that you see, that you know, that you felt, that you have
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observed. it just -- you know, you can turn the camera on anything. oh, my god. turn the camera. you're in control of your work. you're in control of your so-called art. i like that. >> when i watched "guilt trip" and we'll come to yours. i'm sure there are millions of them, as i have. but it took me back to your early upbringing in many ways. it's about mother hood. it's about the relationship between a mother and her son. >> mm-hmm. >> you had a very difficult upbringing. your father died when you were 1. >> 15 months old. >> i was 1 when my father died. >> really? >> i saw that parallel. >> ah. >> i was fortunate in that my mother remarried someone who was a fantastic father to me. >> wow. >> you weren't so fortunate. you had a difficult relationship with your step-father. i was interested in that. >> ah-ha. >> how much did it scar you or did it drive you?
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>> i think it did scar me more than it drove me. what drove me was the fact that my father's life was cut so short. he died at 35 years old. he was listed in a book of great leaders of education. he wrote incredible thesises, if there is such a word, with just wonderful observations. he was a teacher. he also taught at elmira reformatory. he taught english to juvenile delinquents. i could never read that piece until i got much older and had this certain experience. then i was able to read it. that was me. in other words, there is so much in the cellular memory or the dna. because i never knew him. but at 16, i discovered ipsen
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and shakespeare. when i finally read my father's thesis it was how to teach prisoners and delinquents through ipsen and shakespeare. you know? >> have you been able to find out a lot about him and his character and his life? >> not really. although very mystical things happen, you know? i was doing a concert -- i can't remember when. several years ago. i was with my two girlfriends one night at my house. and they were talking about their fathers. i couldn't relate to them because they had the experience of having a father. i came up to my office after they left and there was a letter from my father that had been sent to me through a cousin who has the same streisand name in brooklyn, some synagogue.
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she said, can you give this to barbra. this was my father's girlfriend when he was 19 years old and she found me through my cousin. it was a poem written to her. but such a beautiful poem. it talked about love. the only thing really in this world is love was the moral of the poem. with an enigmatic structure in it that you had to find the key to find his -- such an interesting mind. >> extraordinary. he was 19 when he wrote this? >> yeah. >> what did that make you feel? >> that he was telling me something. that it was to me. >> what was he telling you? >> it was a message that, you know, no matter what, love is the answer. that's why i called my album "love is the answer."
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it's also a line from a song. >> your character in the movie "the guilt trip" has been in love or to the viewer has been in love properly twice in her life. to the man she married and to this other guy she fell in love with. how many times have you been properly in love. >> how many times -- i should have prepared for this. i see you ask people this. you didn't ask mike tyson. >> there was a reason for that. >> is that right? trying to think. um -- at least five or six. >> really? that's fascinating. does the wider world know all of them? >> you didn't ask how long it lasted. just love feeling or whatever. >> how long does it need to last to qualify for proper love, do you think? >> oh, maybe seven.
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not that long. eight months, would you say? maybe years. >> some people have it literally in a flash. i do believe there can be love at first sight. i have known people. they have been very happy the rest of their lives together. they get lucky. >> yeah. isn't it interesting? it's a recognition of something. i knew i liked you from the minute. i didn't know your father died that early. you see, you might have known that about me, but there's something that you recognize in someone's past. it's a void that you recognize. >> i think you become -- i'm sure you're the same. you are curious because you never knew this person but it was such a pivotal part of your life, clearly. it's why you're here. >> yeah. >> did you feel your mother properly loved you or was there a sense of jealously that you
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were leading the kind of life perhaps she dreamt of herself? >> she was a wonderful singer. my mother had a great voice. not like mine. not like my sister's. not like my son's. a high soprano voice but like a bird. really beautiful. i used to say, mom, why didn't you try to get a career as a singer. no, she said she was too shy. she couldn't do it. i'm basically shy, too. but that makes the difference. how do you succeed if you don't try? >> how did you feel when your mother died? did you feel you had reconciled things with her? >> basically, yeah. a short time before she died i remember going to her house. she had alzheimer's. she didn't recognize me really. but i started to sing her a melody of something she had sung when she was younger.
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that, she remembered. it shows you the power of music, doesn't it? >> what was it you sang? do you remember? >> it was something that she made a record of when i was 13 and she took me. but it was really because she made the records and then i was able to make a record when i was 13. >> do you think she was proud of you? >> do you know what it was? i used to say, ma, how come you never told me "i love you"? you never said those words or hugged me. she said, i didn't want you to get a swelled head. she said, i knew that my parents loved me, but they didn't have to tell me all the time. it's a certain coldness, you know? it's not tactile. it's not physical. i don't know what it is. it's strange to me, always. strange to me. >> how are you with your son? >> oh, i just -- i think everything he does is great. you know? my son, that's unconditional love.
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i swear. it's a terrible thing to say. my son could do something really bad and i know i would find a way to justify it. >> you sang with your son jason in september. just take a look at this. it's very moving. >> what? what do you have? ♪ >> wow. ♪ how many rose z -- >> and you've got roses. >> i've got roses. ♪ are sprinkled with dew >> doesn't he have a gorgeous voice? >> amazing. >> look at that. he had never been on stage before. but he's done so much incredible work on himself that he actually could have the courage. he said, i'm never going to perform. he said, i like recording but i will never record live. jason, i said, we have to sing it together.
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i have to sing that with you. >> it was beautiful to watch. >> wow. >> we found it on the internet. >> how do you like that? i have never seen it before. >> have you not ever seen it before? may izing. >> we have it for the television show that will come out on mother's day hopefully. >> i want to know if you have been on a road trip with him. whether it was a parallel with the movie. i want to talk about politics, "the way we were" -- my favorite movie, and what rocks your political boat because i know for a fact a lot does. my conversation with barbra streisand took place before the shooting in newtown. she said the horrible tragedy in newtown, connecticut has brought to the forefront a long overdue national conversation regarding the lack of gun control and mental health services in our country. i hope the story of sandy hook
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elementary finallile cat lieds it is nation and our leaders in washington to commit to doing something substantive regarding gun control and access to mental health care service it is to those who desperately need it. we'll be right back. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. nature valley granola thins pack the big taste of granola and dark chocolate into one perfect square, under 100 calories. nature valley granola thins.
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anybody in spain but the spanish. is that scary? they're come oh niss, yes, but they want total disarmament? no. is that scary? hitler and mussolini are using the spanish earth for testing ground for what they want -- another world war. is that scary? you're darn right it is. >> barbra streisand in "the way we were." that's my synchle favorite movie. i told robert redford when he came in. he said he was resisting your call for a sequel ever since. >> it's such a good story, the sequel. i'm still after him. >> he's never made a sequel to anything. he doesn't believe in sequels. >> i understand that. this happens to be a great story. i wanted it to be released on the anniversary. >> what would have happened? >> it was just a very interesting story through their daughter and her political activism at berkeley in 1968 and the democratic national
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convention which is very interesting. it was a beautiful love story again. >> we spent most of the last month e-mailing each other about barack obama and mitt romney. you were tearing me off a new one, i believe is the american phrase, for what you perceived to be my lack of support for the president. >> that's right. >> i was more interested in the debate. it was a good one. i found it informative. >> i sent you articles. >> you did. your man won. >> your man didn't? >> i don't have a voice in the race. i'm british. my argument was i wondered whether mitt romney could be better for the american economy. >> god, no. >> given his background. you were having none of it. >> do you know why? there have been businessmen who turned presidents. hoover, the first george bush. businessmen. there were a couple of others. lousy presidents. businessmen make lousy
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presidents. >> why have you been so consistently supportive of obama? >> i can't even imagine thinking about what would happen to the supreme court if a republican were the president. you know? i mean, citizens united is a horrible thing people can spend and waste this amount of money on elections? think of the people that could benefit from that money. >> there have been two elections since i have been in america. two elections where one party has had far more financial firepower. one was with meg whitman and one was with romney. the most money lost. what does that tell you? >> the people are getting smarter. they're going, i don't like this amount of money spent on this election. there should be a given --
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campaign finance reform is very important. i hope somebody does something about it. you should have a given amount, equal amount, equal air time. that's it. you know? that idea of corporations being people, no, no. this is a country of, by and for the people. not of, by and for the corporation. you know? it's like because i'm so against gmos, the modified food and i'm so against lobbying, you know, like chemical companies lobbying and proposition 37 was bad. that's scary. the poison in our foods and in the air and pollution. they give discretionary polluters -- we are having climate change. the republicans don't seem to want to acknowledge that. it is a major problem and you have to be a democrat to
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understand that or to believe in that. >> have you ever been in love with a republican? >> never. >> could you ever be? >> no. >> really? that's fascinating. >> well, unless there was an enormous sexual chemistry and i had to -- we never talked about politics. maybe. but i can't quite imagine it, no. >> what would have been the proudest moments for you with obama? i imagine one was when he came out for gay rights finally? >> mm-hmm. absolutely. that's great. >> what else? >> what else as has he done? >> that you're particularly proud of. >> his stance for women. women. the power of women or not allowing just for that one reason. in my show i would say i'm not going to tell you who to vote for, but if you want clean air, good food and so forth. if you believe that a woman has a right to choose what happens in her own body -- in other
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words, or you think your body belongs to the state, there is a clear choice. thank god that achen and murdock came out with -- >> extraordinary statements. >> unbelievable. isn't that great? keep talking, boys. >> what was amazing is when you watched the footage of the moments neither had a clue they had anything remotely contentious. >> scary. >> i found it unsettling. you can reach the point of potentially becoming a senator and have no clue what you are saying is deeply offensive to people. >> some men, mostly women, right? it was deeply offensive. >> do you feel there is any form of real equality yet in america for women? >> we are one of the last countries to think of a woman being president. i think it's possible now. but it wasn't years ago. >> do you think hillary is likely to run? >> i don't know. but i hope after a four-year
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rest that she would run because she would be a great woman president. >> let's take another break. let's come back and talk hollywood. who the greatest movie star in the world is ever. >> okay. >> other than yourself. >> no, no.
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♪ papa can you hear me ♪ papa can you see me ♪ papa can you find me in the night ♪ ♪ papa are you near me ♪ papa can you hear me ♪ papa can you help me >> you're wearing the same outfit. you just realized. >> that's very funny. >> what do you think when you see yourself from that era? that was from "yentyl" in 1983. >> what do i think? >> yeah, when you look at yourself. >> i'm so objective when i look at myself. when i'm directing a movie, editing it's she, her. it's not me. it's like the character in the movie. >> do you see a beautiful woman there? >> not particularly. >> have you ever looked in the mirror and thought you looked beautiful? >> from certain angles. >> really? which is your best angle?
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>> well. my left. >> why? >> mm, because my eyes don't look as cross-eyed sometimes. >> that's really what you feel? >> yeah. i'm like two different people. two sides, i think. >> let's look at a clip from one of my favorites. this is your film debut "funny girl." ♪ life's candy and the sun's a bowl of butter ♪ ♪ don't bring around a cloud to rain uh on my parade ♪ ♪ don't tell me not to fly ♪ i've simply got to ♪ in someone takes a spill, it's me and not you ♪ ♪ who told you you're allowed to rain on my parade ♪ >> it's odd. >> fabulous film. >> you know, i don't like to live in the past. i like to live in the present. so it's odd for me to see. >> you're 19 years old. >> you do? >> yeah. >> whoa, whoa. >> 19?
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♪ ♪ you're bewitched and deeply ♪ looked after >> see, i didn't know. ♪ >> you see, i find that utterly spellbinding. >> you're kidding. >> what was funny was you watching it thinking, i'm cross-eyed. i think there is a beautiful woman singing like an angel. two different perspectives. >> we don't appreciate ourselves, most people. interesting. >> how have you resisted the self-masticated plunge into plastic surgery so many american female stars feel compelled to do? >> i don't trust most people. when i was younger i thought,
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god, if only i could just take off that little bit and just shorten it a little bit. what if he screws up, you know? i really don't like the idea of changing one's face. you know, like capping the teeth or stuff like that. to change the face, no. >> who is the greatest actor you have ever seen? i know you love acting. it's your great passion. >> marlon brando. >> really? >> no question. why? do you doubt that? >> no, i don't actually. i remember interviewing dennis hopper and he said james dean for him had the brando thing as well. >> but brando was first. >> yeah. he was fascinating. he would call me up sometimes. >> marlon brando would? >> he called me up once and said, sing me a song. i said, marlon.
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that's like me asking you to recite hamlet. to which he proceeded to recite a scene from hamlet. >> did you have to sing? >> i did. >> what did you sing him? >> i sang a song called "nobody's heart belongs to me". >> just on the phone to brando. >> i remember sitting in my kitchen. i will never forget it. one of those moments i will never forget. this is before they had gizmos to record things. i'm going -- [ mouthing words ] hamlet! >> what did he say at the end of it? >> i don't remember that. >> was it a regular thing? did he ring you up on a friday night and say where is my song? >> we went on a short road trip together. >> you and marlon brando? >> mm-hmm. >> this is fantastic. where did you go? >> he wanted to take me to the desert to see the wild flowers and sleep over. >> now we're getting somewhere.
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>> i said, i can't stay over. i'll go for the day. you have to take me home. >> you turned down brando? >> yeah. absolutely. >> how did he take rejection? >> he was fine. but he would do things like, you know, we would talk for hours sometimes on the phone. it was great. >> what about? i find this mess me riegz. the greatest singer and the graets actor just chewing the fat on the phone. >> we would talk for hours. interesting. when we went on the road trip. he had just done, you know, the sexual one. "the last tango in paris." i never asked him about acting. he told me -- it was interesting what he was telling me. i will write about it some day.
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but when i was older and i was doing my last -- no, nuts. yeah. he was telling me how he wears an ear wig so he could hear the lines. a guy would speak the lines. you know, marlon, i didn't want to know the lines of this movie. i was supposed to be under the influence of a drug in "nuts." but then he started to tell me. but i never wanted to ask him, impose on him. he came to my house once and said, before we say anything, look into my eyes and don't smile or anything. see how long you can do it. i was reading a book about him. >> how long could you do it? >> i couldn't do it. i kept laughing. but he was amazing. i see in the book he does that with people. >> amazing. let's take a break, come back and talk about singing.
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>> singing. >> yeah. i look at you and i see the greatest singer there's ever been. >> wow. so sweet. >> i want to know how you do it. it's not sweet. it's a fact. you're barbra streisand. >> oh, my god.
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♪ memories ♪ like the corners of my mind
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♪ misty water-colored memories ♪ of the way we were >> so when we had dinner i said i found this thing on youtube from you from 1975, a special called "funny girl." i said it is so amazing that it's breathtaking. that was the clip. i have now played it to other famous people. i won't embarrass you by saying who it is. they sit there, big superstars sit there with their mouths open. >> really? >> it's almost musical perfection. also, you look so dazzling in that clip. >> that's so nice. >> what do you feel? >> i can't see what you see. i can't. >> really? >> i'm looking at it why was i wearing that thing over the black dress. god, my hair was light. i was a little chubby. >> you weren't chubby. >> it's okay. >> you weren't. you're beautiful.
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the interesting thing is the singing. we come to the amazing success. but it's the fact you've got so crippling shy when you perform lie that you play huge concerts in new york once, 30,000 people. >> 150. >> you forgot the words to big songs and it freaked you out so much you didn't perform live for how long? >> 27 years. >> at the peak of your powers when you could have earned presumably a million a night in vegas, you stopped. >> mm-hmm. >> that's some freak-out. >> when you get freaked out -- >> tell me how you're feeling. i never imagined people with your talent could ever feel that nervous. >> you know, there's probably several people called barbra streisand meaning you see me as this star. i don't see myself like that. i'm this girl, this woman, this
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mother, this wife. you know, i don't dress up at home. i don't like to say schlump, but more like the picture you saw me in. i was comfortable in that picture. i wore a sweatsuit and sneakers. >> i loved it was the least star superstar i have ever met. after all the diva stories i read which i half hoped were true. i like my da vas to be divas. you're very normal and nice. >> i hate to disappoint you. what the hell is a diva? i don't know. >> have you ever been one? >> no. >> have you ever screamed at people? >> oh, yes. i scream at people. >> how loudly? >> i scream at my husband. doesn't make me a diva. >> are you a perfectionist? >> i am proud to say i am. but there is no such thing as perfection. i found that out when i was 15 years old. i wrote it in my journal.
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that perfection is imperfection. it has that humanity. a human quality. otherwise it's too cold, right? you can strive for perfection. the better word is excellence. strive for excellent. >> we are headed for christmas. you can even sing christmas stuff better than anybody else. watch this. i found it on the internet. >> you're kidding me. ♪ silent night [ applause ] >> i like that. ♪ holy night >> i was hoarse that night. ♪ all is calm ♪ all is bright ♪ round yon virgin ♪ mother and child
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>> do you hear it? >> you're saying you sound hoarse. i have goosebumps. this is why you are such a perfectionist. it must be why you're good. >> maybe. i'm never in love with what i do. what do you do that we maybe wouldn't know? are you a secret painter? >> i draw. i actually draw. i take photographs. i wrote a book on design. that's interesting to me because that's a lot to do with directing, too. it's composition and color and, you know, monokro ma tick frames. that interests me. >> are you a naturally restless person or can you completely relax if you want to? >> more so now, i can relax. i like quiet. i like to read, be quite, watch films. or have interesting conversations. most conversations are not that interesting. that's why i like politics.
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political -- >> you're great at that. i have had some ding-dongs with you which i really enjoyed. you give as good as you get. no holds barred. >> that was fun. >> let's come back to talk about a "the guilt trips." i want to know what guilt trips you have had in life and i want names. >> hmm, that's hard. so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. get the best offer of the year -- 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. hurry. bonus cash ends january 2nd.
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do you want to go on a trip with me, mom? >> you want to drive cross-country with me?
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>> yeah. no. you know, we won't be gone long. it's only eight days in the car together. >> wait a minute. i want to make sure i'm hearing this correctly. you want to spend a week in a car with your mother. >> more than anything in the world. >> don't you think it might get on your nerves a little bit? >> no. it was just a thought. if you don't want to do it -- >> barbra streisand in "the guilt trip." it's a very warm film. it's funny, but very warm and poignant in places. can you imagine doing a road trip with your son for a week like that? >> yeah. i could imagine it. >> you'd drive each other mad? >> no, no. >> my mother and i would last a day. we're too similar. there would be too much arguing, i'm sure. >> really? >> she wouldn't admit it, but there would be. >> i love traveling with him on my tour. he brought his dog. i brought my dog.
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we ate a chinese delicacy together like a hamburger. i have taken road trips with my husband. >> how do they go? >> it brings us closer. >> i have only met him once or twice. he seems a very calming influence. a very self-confident -- very unstarry -- he's a down to earth character. >> he's very different than i am. i'm much more -- >> how much of the character you play, joyce, are you in real life? are you neurotic? in a good way? >> probably. i'm on good behavior now. >> this turn to the future. you don't like going on about the past? >> no, to you, it's about what's happening next? >> and being here in the present and being -- it's hard too to
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try to be grateful for everything that's positive and not dwell on the negative. it's in my character to see things more pessimistically than optimistically. i have to work at that. >> you've managed your career so skillfully. it may have been by default. you didn't want to put yourself out there. >> lazy. >> maybe that. >> your words not mine. you haven't done that many talks or released that many albums by comparison. each time you do something, you have people looking forward to it. >> it's not conscious, it's the fact that i do -- if i'm newly going to the gym, i don't have a desire to work. sometimes work is a substitute for life.
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>> your track record here. 51 gold albums. 18 multiplatinum. that's just the music. oscars, emmys, grammys, and so on. it's unbelievable array of honors, medals, trophies. is any of that really motivate you? do you ever look at it and think i haven't done badly for a young girl from brooklyn. >> every once in a while -- i used to hide all these awards, and then one day i was doing a new house and -- it was a long time ago. i decided i'll put them in a room, you can't see them when you walk in. but they're there, and i do appreciate them now. i must say, i was here. i'm still here, but i was here, i think it's because my father and maybe you relate to this,
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died so young. that i want to be remembered. i want to have made a mark here. and records and films, television shows, they do that, they say you existed. you were here. and hopefully for a good purpose. >> let's take a final break, talk about other ways you're going to be remembered. much of which will be charitable. you want to talk about heart disease. you've raised a lot of money. and made a big difference. >> i hope so. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know.
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we thought it would be fun to trace your lineage all the way back. >> and it turns out you are 1/23rd isrealite. >> great fun. did you like making that? >> it's not a challenge. >> let's talk about your philanthropic career. that's been almost as relentless and productive as anything else you've done. one of the particular things you're so keen on is women's heart disease. tell me why that's such a passion? >> you know, i -- i dislike inequality so much, whether it's gender issues or gay rights or whatever. even in the medical sciences,
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there is discrimination. so it turns out that more women die of heart disease now than all cancers combined. more women die of heart disease rather than men. more women than men die of heart disease. did you know that? i was so shocked by some of these statistics. >> i saw why you were so strong about it. >> in 50 years of research has been done on men. i'll tell you a story, you'll realize how powerful females are. even in the research, a woman doctor discovered how to grow a heart from stem cells in a petrie dish. how did she do it? she did it with only female stem cells, because literally, the male stem cells got lost, loik
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in life. and they refuse to ask for directions. now, this is true. can you imagine that? i just believe breast cancer has done a magnificent job raising millions and millions of dollars to help that disease. but let's say 39,000 women died of breast cancer in the last couple years one year. 455,000 died of heart disease. and we haven't learned yet those organizational skills in order to raise awareness and subsequent funds to help that. women have a different, a smaller vascular system called a micro vascular system. we need different equipment, different diagnostic techniques in order to examine women. and it's something that i really look forward to. >>t'